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Re: Probe

August 21, 2015, 11:59 pm
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Quote from: Still on Today at 06:52:44 AM
Then could start with two banks of 500 each, starting with 5 unit base bet to make .75 units per bet, needing about 30 hours on a live wheel to double your bank (and base bet)...then 15 hrs, then 7.5 ...ect...about the same amount of time to do it with a progression.

Yes, try that, everybody has different moneymanagement strategies.

Any testing of this system would be appriciated, (more testing is needed!)
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Re: saw on another forum. double street strategy

August 22, 2015, 12:13 am
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Re: Vaddis Holy Grail

August 22, 2015, 12:13 am
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Quote from: falkor2k15 on Yesterday at 05:51:56 PM
Yes, his singles are sleepers. It's like going to a Casino and seeing that the Blacks are 66% in front of Reds, so you bet on Red because it needs to catch up. That's even money, but here the Doubles have a slight edge, so they always catch up. To catch the sleepers would need to be at the start of phase 1 or 2 (virtually or actually betting on them), otherwise we would have to wait for the Doubles to be stretched so far above the sleepers by a certain spin number that the sleepers would need to catch up.

Phase one, as described, bets only on the possibility of repeating numbers.  Same with phase two (an attempt to convert singles into doubles, and doubles into triple repeats...etc).  At no time did the author explain how to convert sleepers into singles except to suggest there was a balanced relationship between landed numbers and some mystical "pair".  The only way you can bet on an unlanded number is to bet on an unlanded number, preferably selected by something other than luck.  None of his examples showed any bets on unlanded numbers, but its clear thats what you have to do, with the pairs table and perhaps a couple more factors to guide the selection of unhit numbers.  Until someone starts betting on unhit numbers ("sleepers")in some intelligent way, not all clues left by the author are being heeded, and we are apt to go astray on dead end tangents, confused by duplicious linguistical syntax (kind of like where Christianity is right now). On the other hand, the puzzle might be unsolvable, in which case the author must have been trying to sell software. Speaking of which, has anybody checked out his DATA extraction spreadsheet/software?
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MV6 for EC

August 22, 2015, 3:05 am
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MatrixVerticalSix for EC
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Originator: JohnLegend.
Tweak: Atlantis.

Bet against formation of six of same result in each vertical column of a 7-wide matrix grid.

There are 2 possible triggers to watch for in each column.

Trigger 1
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R
B
B
B
B
B - trigger to bet for R.


Trigger 2
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B
R
R
R
R
R - trigger to bet for B.

Bet ONCE ONLY after a trigger

Win or lose await next new trigger formation.


With a matrix 7 it is recommended to use FLATBET.
0 not recorded in grid.

Advise use fastspin feature of trusted r.n.g. for faster recording and play. Single 0 or nozero roulette.

Example:

R B R B B B R
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R R
B B R R B B R
B R R B B R B
R B R B B B B
R B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R R R B B R R
R B R R B R R
R B R B B B B---w@col7
R R B R B B B
B R R R R B B---w@col5
R R R R B R R
B B R R B R R
R R R B R B R
R B B B R R B
B B B R B B B
B R B B B R B
R B B B R B R
R R R B R B R
B B B B R B R
R B B B B R B
R R B B B B R---L@col4
B R B R R B R
B R R B B B B
B R B B R B R
B B B B R B B
R B B B B R R---w@col6
B B B B R B R
R B B R R R R---w@col4
B B R R R R B---w@col3
B B B R B B B---L@col2
B R B R B R B
R B R R B R B
R B B R R R B---L@col4
B B B B B B R---w@col7
B B B R B B R
R R R B B B R
R R R R R R B
B B R B B B B
R B B B R B R
B B B R B B R
R B B R R R B
B R B B B B R
R B B B R R R
R B R R B B R---w@col3
R R B B B R R
R R R R B B B
R B B R B R B
B B R B B R R---w@col1
B R R R R R R---w@col5
R R R R R B R
R B B B B B R
R R R R B R R
R R R B R B R---L@col7
R R R R R R B
R B B B B B B---L@col1
R R B R R R B
B R R R B R R
B B B R R R R
B B B B B B R
B B R B R B R
R B B B R B R
R B B B B R R
B R R B B R R---w@col2---L@col7
B R B R R B R---w@col4
R R B R B R R
R B B R R B R
R B R B R R B
B R B B B R R
B R B B R R R
B B R R R R R
R R B R R R R
B R R B R R R---L@col6
R R B B R B B---w@col7
B R B B B R R---w@col5
B B B R B B R
R R B B B R R
B B B R R R B
R R R B B B R---w@col3
B R B B R B R
B R B R R B B
R B B R B R B
B R B B B B R
B R R R B B R
B R B R B B B
R B B R B B B
R R R B R R B---w@col5
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B B
B B R R R R R
B B R R B B R
R B R R R R B
B R B R B B B---L@col4
B R B R R B B
B B R R R B B
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R B---L@col7
B B R R R B R
R R B B R B B---L@col5
B R R B R B B
B R R R R B R
B R R R B B R
R R R B B R B---w@col6
B B B B R B R---w@col2
R B B R R B B
R R B R B B B
B R B R R B B
R R B B B R B
R B R B B R R---w@col3
R B R B R B R
R R B B B B B
R B R B R B R
B B B R B B R---w@col1---w@col4
B R R B R R B
B B B R B R R
B R B B R B B
R R R R B R R
R B R R R B B
B B R R B B B
B R B B B B B
B R B B B B B
R B R B R R B
R R B R R B R---w@col7
R R B B R B B
R R R R B B R
B B B B B R B
R B B R B R R
B B R R R B B
R R B B B B R
R R B R B B B
B B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
R R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R B R B R R R---w@col4
R B R R B R B---w@col7
B R B B B R R
R B B B B B B
B B B R B R B
B B R B R B B


To get MORE bets - compile similar matrix for O/E and H/L results at same time!

Is this the future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik3dW-e9-A

Regards,
A.

Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15828.0
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Re: Vaddis Holy Grail

August 22, 2015, 6:22 pm
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Attached is how I managed to pass 10K - one of the few ways I could get Vaddi's system to stay afloat for a good number of spins - all instructions are in red.
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Re: MV6 for EC

August 22, 2015, 8:27 pm
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Yes, there's something intriguing about matrices.

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why an R is more unlikely than a B after having 5 R's every 7th spin for 35 spins

I've tested this and can't seem to lose in the short run, albeit the wins with a flat bet are minimal.

I had similar results with Lanky's matrix method.

I've tested this playing for streaks of 5 on rows and slants and it seems to have pretty much the same hit rate as columns.

Hey, to each his own.  I'm sure A will acknowledge that there's no one exact way that wins to play this and every other way is a loser.

I think this is a good system to put in your basket of systems. 

GLC
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Re: Vaddis Holy Grail

August 22, 2015, 9:51 pm
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Hey guys.  Try this

Bet any number that shows of these: #6, #7, #8, #9, #10

To my surprise good hit rate :d
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Saturday, August 22,2015 @ 11:31pm CDT USA

...11,1,27,17,10*

Bet #10:     1.) 4(x)-1               2.) 15(x)-1               3.) 6(x)-1*

Bet 10,6:     4.) 3(x)-2               5.) 27(x)-2               6.) 15(x)-2

7.) 30(x)-2                8.) 23(x)-2               9.) 22(x)-2               10.) 11(x)-2

11.) 0(x)-2               12.) 7(x)-2*

Bet 10,6,7:    13.) 34(x)-3               14.) 3(x)-3               15.) 25(x)-3

16.) 7(win)+33*

Bet 10,6:     17.) 14(x)-2               18.) 27(x)-2               19.) 34(x)-2

20.) 4(x)-2               21.) 29(x)-2               22.) 30(x)-2

23.) 18(x)-2               24.) 2(x)-2               25.) 23(x)-2

26.) 10(win)+34
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+21 
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Re: RSS (Roulette Scripter Studio) from MMM: by Thomas R. Grant

August 23, 2015, 1:41 am
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KELVIN BAKKER IS A HUGE CRIMINAL, I LOOSE MY WHOLE FUND WITH HIS USELESS JUNK SOFTWARE SOLD AT moneymakermachinedotcom , ALL THIS SWEET MOUTH OF HIS ON THE BLOG SHOULD BE STRICTLY BE IGNORE COS HE IS BIG HUGE SCAMMER THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED, HIS CASE IS CURRENTLY WITH THE FBI AND ACTIONUK POLICE, IMMEDIATELY I ASK FOR REFUND AFTER THE JUNK THROWAWAY MY WHOLE BALANCE HE IMMEDIATELY WENT AHEAD TO BANNED ME FROM HIS FORUM AND UPDATED HIS CRIMINAL SALES PAGE ABOUT REFUND POLICY. HE SCAM MY MONEY AND REFUSES PAYING ME BACK AFTER WITHDRAWING ALL HAVE PAID FOR. KINDLY BE CAREFUL WITH THIS FRAUD GUY... ANYBODY THAT KNOWS THE THIEF SHOULD ASK HIM FOR MY REFUND. HAVE SCAN EVERY RELEVANT DETAILS TO HELP THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR TO HELP TRACK HIM DOWN. I NEED BACK MY $272.25 FROM THIS THIEF, I NEVER KNEW I WILL FALL INTO HIS JUNE/JULY SCAM. HE ALWAY THINK HE IS VERY SMART BY TAGGING ME A SCAM ON HIS FRAUDULENCE FORUM WHERE ALL HIS MEMBERS ARE ALL GROANING FOR LOSES.
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Re: Vaddis Holy Grail

August 23, 2015, 2:21 am
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The VARIATOR software... NEED YOUR ADVICE!

August 24, 2015, 4:30 am
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Hello, guys!

The sitiuation is so - I've been using the VARIATOR software (bit.ly/1Eds7my )
for several months and it's really cool and flexible in the game...

But I keep tracking the web to find another cool software to play!

Can you recommend me any well-programmed (from your point of view) stuff to play with?
(not neccessary to be automated)

Will be very glad to hear your recommendations!

P.S.: Please, don't post something like ALL THE SOFTWARE IS A SCAM. That's not true...

Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15836.0
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The VARIATOR software... NEED YOUR ADVICE!

August 24, 2015, 4:32 am
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What's up, guys!

Honestly, I've been using the VARIATOR software (bit.ly/1Eds7my )
for several months and it's really cool and flexible in the game...

But I keep tracking the web to find another cool software to play!

Can you recommend me any well-programmed (from your point of view) stuff to play with?
(not neccessary to be automated)

Will be very glad to hear your recommendations!

P.S.: Please, don't post something like ALL THE SOFTWARE IS A SCAM. That's not true...

Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15837.0
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The VARIATOR software... Have you tried??

August 24, 2015, 4:34 am
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Hi, guys!  8)

The sitiuation is so - I've been using the VARIATOR software (bit.ly/1Eds7my )
for several months and it's really cool and flexible in the game...

But I keep tracking the web to find another cool software to play!

Can you recommend me any well-programmed (from your point of view) stuff to play with?
(not neccessary to be automated)

Will be very glad to hear your recommendations!  :thumbsup:

P.S.: Please, don't post something like ALL THE SOFTWARE IS A SCAM. That's not true...

Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15838.0
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Re: Jake1: A Higher-Shifting Dozen Trigger System

August 24, 2015, 4:38 am
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I will follow this. Hit and run? Win 1 unit move to next table

Good for me, resorts has like 20 airball machines

I will try with +1 reset on win
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Re: Kimo Li's Methods

August 24, 2015, 4:54 am
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P.A.,
I' m not sure what you're after here but I will say I do think there's some merit to what Kimo has posted about not being hung up on hit rate.  For example, today's earlier session playing 9 numbers produced 9 hits out of 36 spins where I had bets on the table (hit 25%).  23.68% would be break-even on a 00 wheel, yet, even with that small percent above break-even I made a profit of 342 units. 
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Betting "Hot" Numbers in Spins 21-30 Only

August 25, 2015, 1:13 am
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Hi all,

Just been messing around with betting the “hot” numbers from spins 21-30 in a cycle only, “hot” being any numbers with 2 or more hits. If you get a hit jump back 20 spins and start over betting the new qualifying numbers, likewise, if no hit in spins 21-30, jump back the 20 and start betting the qualifiers. I’m using one of the old GUT trackers for the tracking...I’m sure there are some of you who have looked at this in the past, and would welcome any feedback before I spend any length of time on it, I’m tending to find you get a hit within the 10 spins.

Jim


Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15840.0
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Re: Interesting video

August 25, 2015, 1:17 am
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.. and pass the bong when you're done.
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Re: MV6 for EC

August 25, 2015, 1:38 am
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Quote from: GLC on Today at 12:51:40 AM
I have been playing matrix 7 looking for all kinds of patterns to bet will end and having good results.  Even betting the 6 step marty is a winner.  It means a pattern would have to continue for 11 spins to beat me.  It will happen but so far it hasn't.

GLC


Hi George,
That's not the way I played. I didn't bet against the pattern for up to 11 spins.
I bet once only after the trigger - as in the first post. If I lost then on the next time that EC trigger formed I would bet the next stage of the six-step progression. Same for the other 2 Ec's.

Example R/B
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R
B
B
B
B
B - trigger
B - lost 1u
R
B
B
R
R
R
R
R - trigger
B - won 2u

However, if playing in a matrix 7, then I would not use progression - just flatbet.

A.
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Re: MV6 for EC

August 25, 2015, 2:07 am
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Here is an example using same selection trigger with a 1-2-4-8-16-32 six-step progression for the H/L chance.
I am not using a matrix 7 here - only a matrix 4.

I only recommend flatbet with a matrix 7.

Notice in this test how it starts off with quite a few losers. Note the losers are not all consecutive on the same columns.

See how the progression works when a separate progression is applied to EACH column of the grid (4 x 63u) to produce a profit at the end of the test despite the bad start.

Test
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H   L   L   L
L   L   L   H
L   H   H   L
H   H   L   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col1
L   H   H   L - L at col1     -1
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
H   L   H   H
L   H   H   H
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   L
H   L   L   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   H   L   L - trig col3
H   H   L   H - L at col3     -1
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L
H   L   L   L
H   H   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   H   L - trig col4
H   L   L   L - L at col4    -1
L   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   H   H   H - trig col4
H   H   L   H - L at col4    -2
H   H   L   L
H   H   H   L - trig col2
L   H   H   L - L at col2     -1
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
H   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   L
L   H   H   L
H   L   H   H
H   L   H   H
H   H   L   L
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   H - trig col1
H   L   L   L - L at col1    -2
L   H   H   H
H   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L - trig col2
L   L   L   L - L at col2    -2
L   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
H   H   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col1
H   L   L   H - W at col1  +4
L   L   L   H - trig col3
L   H   L   H - L at col3   -2
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   L
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   L   L
H   L   H   L - trig col4
L   L   L   L - L at col4    -1
L   H   H   H
H   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
H   H   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L
L   H   H   L - trig col4
L   L   H   H - trig col1 ; W at col4  +2
H   H   H   L - W at col1                  +1
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L - trig col1 ; trig col4
H   L   L   H - L at col1 ; W at col4      -1     +1
L   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
H   L   L   L
L   H   H   L - trig at col4
L   H   L   H - W at col4     +2   
H   L   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L
H   H   L   H
L   L   H   H
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   H   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   H - trig at col4
L   L   H   L - W at col4     +1
L   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   L   H - trig col1
H   L   H   H - W at col1   +2
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   L   H - trig col1
H   L   H   H - W at col1   +1
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   L - trig at col4
H   H   H   H - W at col4   +1
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   H
H   H   H   H
H   L   L   H - trig at col4
H   H   L   H - L at col4      -1
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col3
H   L   H   L - W at col3     +4
H   L   H   H
H   H   H   L
H   L   L   H
H   H   H   L - trig col1
L   H   L   L - W at col1     +1
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
L   L   L   H - trig col1
H   H   L   H - W at col1   +1
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L - trig col3
L   H   H   H - W at col3   +1
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L - trig col2
L   L   H   H - W at col2   +4
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   L - trig col3
H   L   H   L - L at col3   -1
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L - trig col2
L   H   L   H - W at col2  +1
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   L


This is just to show how I believe it to be better with a matrix 7 and flatbet. However, it will take longer to play and get bets.

If using bleep24's suggestion for betting after each EC trigger as it forms (no matrix) then I advise using the six-step prog applied to each of the three EC's (63u x 3) as mentioned earlier - because more losers will occur without results being recorded into a 7 wide matrix...

Regards,
A.



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Re: Repeater Matrix

August 25, 2015, 3:08 am
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Quote from: ignatus on Today at 06:08:11 AM
I did it manually, took a few hours. and the amount of work i put in is not in accordance with the responses.

It's not about finding "the holy grail", no system can win all the time. it's about finding a system with pretty good hitrate. and as i said a flatbetting system that has 70% winrate is a pretty good system imo.

why should i do more spins? i did 10 sessions already, still im ignored? im getting tired of that general ignorance here on this forum.

Manual testing you should do no more sessions of course...that's too tedious and time consuming.If a system is promissing, it needs to be automated, at least for testing purposes. You need a bigger set of sessions to draw better conclusions.

I don't think people exactly ignore you so to say, but there are many distractions... 
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Re: Vaddis Holy Grail

August 26, 2015, 3:52 am
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Its never ending with petespin. Like a broken record that wont stop repeating. Hes on bet selection to now
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